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Guess what?  Yup, another Thursday.

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Right, so what's the next cliché?

Alice wants to be a businesswoman.

Or some similar variations: 
Alice eagerly accepts Lord Ascot's job offer.
Alice wants to go to China.

Many fics show Alice as a competent businesswoman (my own included) but I wonder if there might be more to that story.

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Date: 2011-05-22 07:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] manniness.livejournal.com
Oh! OK. Another thought. The odd career choice of "businessman" in conjunction with prismdropz points about movie formats leads me to think that we got that particular ending to the film not because it was an extension of Alice's character but because it was a future that we, as the audience, could relate to, so they didn't have to waste time explaining it to us.

I mean, they have like 3 minutes of movie time left for "the end", right? Well, in that time we can have Alice get married (but they already gave that the ax), Alice can return to Underland (which would have been fun but left lots of people thinking, "Great, but what's she going to DO there? Marry the Hatter?"), or have her follow in her father's footsteps. With those choices available (and with the time limit of movie endings -- I'll be honest, as much as I love LOTR, I thought the ending of the third movie went on FOREVER the first time I saw it), I guess they picked the most inspiring one.

I'm not saying it's a great ending, just of the stereotypes/archetypes/whatever available, it was the best. Even if it was a bit of an ill fit for Alice. (Kinda like if you had a navy suit and you need shoes to wear with it but your only choices are: Birkenstocks, old sneakers, or pink cowboy boots.)

Personally, I might have liked to see her friends from Underland join her Above. Kinda like how they did with the end of Labyrinth.

Date: 2011-05-22 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] just-a-dram.livejournal.com
And I'm one of those people who is annoyed how much they left Out of the 3rd LOTR movie. Heh.

I do think they chose it because they thought we could relate. And it would send a message about Alice that we would embrace.

Also, sneakers. Wear the sneakers. Works for the tenth Doctor.

Date: 2011-05-23 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] manniness.livejournal.com
A message that we would relate to and embrace! Thank you! That is precisely what I meant to say!

So... I'm going to pretty much ignore everything in the movie following her soar back up the rabbit hole. I'll just chalk it all up to the limitations of Disney films and let my Alice muse tell me what she would REALLY do to make her own path. (^__~)

P.S. If I can get all these tonally-different fic ideas to mesh, my next big bang is gonna be pretty cool. I just have to find a way to reconcile my initially fun-fluff of a story with the angst in "What You Choose".

Date: 2011-05-23 12:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] just-a-dram.livejournal.com
Good thinking on the ignoring. That's pretty much what I do in my head!canon.

You've got months right? I'm sure you can work them together beautifully and come up with something totally awesome.

Date: 2011-05-23 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prismdropz.livejournal.com
"Throw canon out the window - It's the solution to all your fic-writing problems!"

...I want a T-shirt saying that. Or at least an icon (I'll make one later)

(PS: If you manage to get all these ideas to mesh, I will be so impressed that I will make you a picture!... or at least an icon. Icons I can do.

But really, the only impression I get as I read over all our comments is that if this had all come from one person, we would be sounding kind of schizophrenic.)

Date: 2011-05-23 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prismdropz.livejournal.com
Yeah, out of those 3 endings, I think they went with the best one possible for people to relate to. One of the hardest things for me when I try to create an AiW fic is that I can't usually think of how a life would play out in that kind of world if she had gone back permanently. In a way, things seem to perpetually stand still there which is really nice and endearing in a Peter Pan way, but... it's not too helpful for writing fics.

Not to mention that people have to be productive somehow. They have to do something. Have a career, have goals, have things they want to accomplish... what's the point of free time and fun if there's nothing to compare it to? (If that makes sense.)

How you guys dealt with that in both "One Promise Kept" and "A Fruitful Courtship" was really inspiring, btw. It's why I love rereading them.

Also, now I keep trying to find some way to mesh Labyrinth and AiW together in a crossover. The idea sounds fun but I have no idea how to work it yet. ^.^